tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9956110.post113469872769961023..comments2023-08-18T08:26:02.815-07:00Comments on Treasure State Judaism: A Pox on BOTH Their HousesTreasure State Jewhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01385095688326371682noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9956110.post-1134799731241916192005-12-16T23:08:00.000-07:002005-12-16T23:08:00.000-07:00What he said.Keep posting Raving Norseman.What he said.<BR/><BR/>Keep posting Raving Norseman.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9956110.post-1134768251713598012005-12-16T14:24:00.000-07:002005-12-16T14:24:00.000-07:00Firefly;The interesting thing about that particula...Firefly;<BR/><BR/>The interesting thing about that particular load of bullpucky is that Rowling herself is very religious. In fact, she has alluded several times that the Potter series is a Christian allegory.<BR/><BR/>Don't believe me? Look at some of <A HREF="http://www.google.com/search?q=harry+potter+christian+allegory&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official" REL="nofollow">these links</A>.Treasure State Jewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01385095688326371682noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9956110.post-1134766509141093572005-12-16T13:55:00.000-07:002005-12-16T13:55:00.000-07:00C.S. Lewis was very religious, and at the time he ...C.S. Lewis was very religious, and at the time he wrote the book(s) the idea of a "War on Christmas" would have been unthinkable. <BR/>I heard several discussions when Harry Potter came out. They had to do with with magic and scorcery incouraging non Christian beliefs. <BR/>Now we have a Christian Fantasy, complete with magic and scorcery. Hmm.a-fire-flyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06294455075638690243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9956110.post-1134755154132847852005-12-16T10:45:00.000-07:002005-12-16T10:45:00.000-07:00Norseman;I like the Lion, the Witch and the Wardro...Norseman;<BR/><BR/>I like the <I>Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe</I>. I think it is a great story.<BR/><BR/>Whatever you say about the movie, there is no way to avoid the fact that it was written as a Catholic allegory. CS Lewis wrote it as such. Disney is marketing it to evangelical groups for that reason.<BR/><BR/>Reviews should mention that it is a Christian movie. So was Mel Gibson's movie last year. Not mentioning that fact would do a disservice to the film.<BR/><BR/>The fact that this movie was even produced and is a success is partially a testament to the desire of many to go to Christian themed movies. To my mind, it is better for a Christmas-timed movie to be really religious, instead of just using Christmas as a marketing ploy (<I>Ernest Saves Chistmas</I>, redux.)<BR/><BR/>I look at it as further proof that there is no war.Treasure State Jewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01385095688326371682noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9956110.post-1134747755878044242005-12-16T08:42:00.000-07:002005-12-16T08:42:00.000-07:00I agree with you, to a point. There is only so mu...I agree with you, to a point. There is only so much time in the day, and the more time we spend teaching tolerance and diversity, the less time there is for teaching 'readin' and ritin'.<BR/><BR/>It seems like we ought to have room to enjoy some of the cultural indicia we all share while still educating our kids. Good teachers recognize this intuitively.GeeGuyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13896054313394692210noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9956110.post-1134745205921863352005-12-16T08:00:00.000-07:002005-12-16T08:00:00.000-07:00Geeguy;I did think it was cute when my daughter sa...Geeguy;<BR/><BR/>I did think it was cute when my daughter sang "Children Go Where I Send Thee" last night.<BR/><BR/>However, I still don't think that religious songs -- from any religion -- belong in a public school. As for holidays, part of my problem is the fact that not much instruction happens during December. It just becomes a waste.<BR/><BR/>Take yesterday. School started at 8:20. After about 10 minutes of classtime, the whole school went down to the gym for a dress rehearsal of the program. That took a few hours. Afterward, the entire school went out for a combined recess, followed by lunch in the classroom (the gym, auditorium and lunchroom are all the same room).<BR/><BR/>After lunch, it was time for the show. That took until about 2:30. Fifteen minutes of classtime and it was time to go home.<BR/><BR/>Twenty-five minutes. I am sure they covered a lot of curriculum during that time.<BR/><BR/>To be fair, there is an educational benefit to be conveyed by teaching kids to perform in front of an audience. However, there aren't enough days as it is to teach the curriculum.<BR/><BR/>Halloween, Easter, Passover, Chanukah, Christmas, etc. are all wonderful things. However, I wonder why we think that they should have a place in the school. Is there any wonder why our educational system lags behind the rest of the free world?Treasure State Jewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01385095688326371682noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9956110.post-1134739476727621622005-12-16T06:24:00.000-07:002005-12-16T06:24:00.000-07:00This is an area where you and I disagree, Aaron. P...This is an area where you and I disagree, Aaron. <BR/><BR/>Part of it, I think, is perception. My wife is a Christian and she says she notices less and less ornamentation each year. You don't. I don't know if there is an objective 'truth' here.<BR/><BR/>As far as the schools, I think you have picked a losing example. First, I heard Jewish and Kwaanza songs this year. I heard only one overtly religious song (Silent Night) versus the secular stuff (Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer). If I can listen to my little Protestants sing "The Dreidel Song," smile, and think "how cute," can't you listen to your kid sing "We Three Kings," and think the same thing while you and I have a cup of coffee together, enjoy each other's company, and praise our little Pavarottis?<BR/><BR/>I think the sensitivity over this issue arises out of an overall 'war' on Christianity and religion. If you can't see such a thing occurring in our culture, I have to argue you're just not paying attention. The Christians/religious are consistently portrayed as extreme, fringe dwellers who want to rule the world. Even though I am not technically one of them, I'd be pissed too. Like it or not, our culture originated with a Western, Judeo-Christian heritage. It's part of who we are as a country. And it's <B><I>not</B></I> a bad thing.<BR/><BR/>As far as your suggestion that our schools are teaching theology, I think we all need to lighten up a little. By your theory, we can celebrate no holidays. Ooo, Easter, that's a Christian holiday. No Halloween, that <I>offends</I> the Christians. Didn't they pray at Thanksgiving?<BR/><BR/>Can't we all just get along? Wasn't that the true message of the King? (Rodney, that is.) :)GeeGuyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13896054313394692210noreply@blogger.com